The Man to Beat Floyd Mayweather Jr....
Jeff Pryor takes a look at what it will take to beat Floyd Mayweather, and who might be the man to do it.
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Against a smaller, older, slower, lighter punching man in his last bout, Mayweather looked virtually unbeatable. However like all fighters, he is not invincible.
Even for all his world class athletic attributes there are areas to exploit against Mayweather, it is a credit to his skill and choice in opponents that no fighter he has faced has yet had exactly the right tools to take advantage of the chinks in his armor.
So, what is there to exploit you ask? First off, Floyd pulls straight back. His Fred Astaire feet make him hard to reach and his right glove is usually by his chin... but he pulls straight back. And his left hand is forever dangling at his waist when he does it. The shorter, slower man, with much less reach, Marquez was able to clip him a number of times as Mayweather pulled back.
Secondly Mayweather still allows himself to get caught on the ropes at times. Whether bravado, break taking or a comfort zone, when Floyd's back is on the ropes he is far less effective than when he can escape out the back door and move freely. Marquez landed some of his cleanest blows while Floyd languished on the threads. Delahoya too, was allowed to bang away and score significant blows with Mayweather back on his heels and hemmed in.
Third, his style is almost entirely based on reflex and speed. Those leaping left hooks that first caught Marquez off guard, rarely landed as the fight went on. Juan Manuel didn't have the speed to do more than dodge them once he had the timing figured, but no matter how fast, leaping in with shots like Floyd does is dangerous business and one well timed blow could change a fight seemingly in hand.
Lastly there is the matter of volume. Mayweather is economical and though his speed tends to make opponents think twice about letting their hands go, he can be outworked. The trick is getting that output to land (see above).
With those points in mind, there are several fighters within Mayweathers own weight class who would provide a true litmus test for Mayweathers unbeaten record.
Here we'll run down the most likely suspects:
Manny Pacquiao
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Debatably, he isn't even in Mayweather's weight class, yet so dynamic has Pacquiao's rise been that size considerations have been all but written off when it comes to the division hopping Filipino. An explosive combo of power and aggression, with a galvanized skill set, Manny seems to be the odds on favorite to face Mayweather should he get past Cotto.
With hand and foot speed, as well as reflex reaction on par with Mayweather this would be a tight wire tension drill for both men. Pacquiao would have a hard time reaching Mayweather as he pulls back, but he would be able to react and counter, get Floyd on the ropes and get shots in with his frenetic attacks.
Floyd would be able to pick his spots and counter, potshot at times and would strain to keep the fight at his pace, while Manny bounces at him furiously pouncing with a flurry of blows at every available opportunity. The crux of this matchup really would be whether Manny has real power at 147 or if his recent blowouts of Hatton and DeLaHoya were slightly misleading due to the condition of his foes.
If Manny really does pack the punch he seems to, and we'll know for sure after he faces Cotto in November, then this fight pits an absolute offensive monster against an all time defensive master. Somethings gotta give.
Miguel Cotto
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The written off man, it would seem, in the Mayweather sweepstakes. To my mind there is a very good chance for him to beat Pacquiao despite the sports apparent willingness to presume Manny's victory before it's happened. Should he defeat Pacquiao, his widespread Puerto Rican and east coast fan base would likely be enough of a cash cow to lure Mayweather into a bout.
Cotto showed he had hand speed the equal of Mosley in their fight and the skill to outbox him for a majority of the bout. Whether it be brawling or boxing, Cotto's defining trait is that he just has the innate ability to do what it takes to win.
The aforementioned hand speed would give Cotto a good chance to land a significant amount on Floyd, and he is a punishing puncher, particularly to the body, where Floyd has had rib problems. The landscape for Miguel to succeed in this bout would be when he has Floyd on the ropes. Cotto's swarming punches would come in a flurry and he's skilled enough to place them well.
The styles matchup would be less daunting for the Puerto Rican than some of his recent bouts as well. Cotto's weakness would seem to be relentless bigger guys he can't hurt. Floyd certainly isn't relentless. And he isn't going to pressure Cotto in the least. If Cotto could cut off the ring well, he just might be the guy to corral Mayweather and make it ugly for the Pretty Boy.
Antonio Margarito
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His wrap scandal aside, Margarito has in the ring business to attend to in order to repair his reputation after his dismantling at the hands of Mosley. Beyond that, Margarito at his best would still pose issues for Floyd. His length would allow him to reach Mayweather on the way out, and his punch output would be impossible for Floyd to match.
Though Mayweather would likely be able to strafe Margarito at will, should the cement headed Mexican be back in full force, this would do little to discourage him. The sheer number of punches Antonio would hurl, would make it likely that a fair amount would batter into Floyd, and Margarito does a good job of cutting off the ring and tracking down opponents.
Floyd would outclass and out speed him, but he wouldn't be able to resist unloading on the easy to hit Margarito at times. And in those moments he has to stand still and punch. Margarito would bomb with him and make it interesting. If there is a head in boxing to crack Floyd's fragile hands Margarito's is surely the one.
Paul Williams
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The freakish nature of Paul Williams size almost certainly negates any chance of Floyd ever excepting Williams as an opponent, so I'll keep this short; Williams reach would be a nightmare for Mayweather's usual style.
If Mayweather committed to working inside the giant wingspan of Williams he could find real success, but his comfort zone is on the outside, and Paul's size would allow him to clip Floyd as he pulled out and keep him at bay on the ropes with his long arms.
My guess is Williams never fights at 147 again so this is almost a moot point. Still, Williams presents the type of high risk, low reward challenge Mayweather has never been willing to entertain. In fairness it would be a lot asking Floyd to take this fight. Still, for as highly as Floyd talks of himself, this match-up should be fair game.
Shane Mosley
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Probably the most qualified opponent to face Floyd, with probably the best chance to win. His speed may not quite equal "Money's" flashing fists, but it's close enough to do the trick, and behind Mosley's speed there is considerable power. Zab Judah was able to knock Floyd down with a similar combination of attributes and Shane brings more punching prowess to the table. His strength and stamina would tax Floyd in close and his willingness to throw-down would likely force Floyd into exchanging more than he would be comfortable with.
Mosley is a total welterweight package, the likes of which Floyd has never dared to face before. Of the points I outlined above, Mosley would be the one man that could likely take advantage of all of them.
What makes the fight so intriguing however is the fact that Miguel Cotto was able to outbox Mosley in the home stretch of their bout to pull off the win. As good as Mosely's skills are, at times he just wants to fight and that mentality would keep things interesting and open up both great opportunities and liabilities for Mayweather.
Mosley the hunter. Mayweather the elusive potshotter. A great fight and the real matchup to be made at welterweight.
Each of these men has strengths that they could leverage against Mayweather. And each has weaknesses that Floyd could exploit.
The fact is, to beat Floyd Mayweather, you can't just be a great fighter, you've got to have particular attributes that can take advantage of his few weaknesses. You must be able to push the action and make him engage. When he is throwing punches, he is far more available to be hit.
You must have some combination of comparable speed, rangy reach and/or reactive reflexes to counterbalance his own otherworldly athleticism.
You must have a good chin, because he's going to hit you clean and fast at times.
You must be consistent and put in a full fight of indefatigable work.
And you probably need an X-factor. If you're going to do something special, you have to bring something special to the table. Could be unbelievable fortitude and determination, or it could be game changing power, unusual length or matching speed.
Make no mistake, beating Floyd Mayweather is a task that few welterweights on the planet would have any hope of achieving. At best, if we are lucky, one... maybe two, might get the opportunity to take up the challenge.
To many hardcore boxing fans Floyd Mayweather is unbeaten with an asterisk; some feel he flat out lost to Jose Luis Castillo, others feel his handpicked opposition has been the chief factor in his unblemished brocade of victories.
Whatever each individual detractors quibbling preference may be, it would appear that for the man who has proclaimed himself "the greatest of all time", many a fan still feels Mayweather has long avoided readily available challenges that could at least make such self indulgent hyperbole less of an arrogant assertion without merit and into a semi-reasonable, if still self aggrandizing, proclamation.
The point is, if we can feel he's done everything he humanly can to prove he's the best, and succeeded, we can live with him stamping himself with approval. But as there have been multiple tough and worthy fighters he has shied away from in favor of seemingly easier opposition, fans have had a natural backlash.
Mayweather is in the drivers seat and he can go some ways down that road to all time greatness if he wants to. Any of the men listed above would be solid choices as opponents.
There's a good chance for one or more of these fights to get made and with all the factors that go into any bout, it's almost impossible to predict exactly who or how someone may beat Mayweather. It may happen next time out for Money May. It may never happen.
All that most of the sports observers ask is that Floyd challenges himself to be as great as he already claims he is.
The man who has what it takes to beat Mayweather is out there. It may take a special night for this man. It may take a lucky break. Or it may just take an opportunity to step into the ring with him.
He's out there. Whether he gets an opportunity to prove it, with Mayweather's notorious aversion to risk as a barrier, is a question we'll have answered over the relatively short remainder of Floyd's career.
The double edged sword here is that those same men who could snatch his unbeaten record away and upend Mayweather's argument for GOAT ascendency, could also provide the nudge into GOAT-like possibility, should he conquer a few of these worthy challengers available to him.
The truth is, the men to beat Mayweather, should he face them, are also the men who will beat Mayweather should he choose not to. The specter of match-ups avoided could loom larger than a true loss on Mayweather's record as the years go by and with a rogue's gallery of dangerous opponents at hand, failing to rise to meet those challenges is as big a defeat as succumbing in the squared circle.
Floyd Mayweather is so good, he may not lose to Mosley, Pacquiao, Margarito, Cotto or Williams inside the ring were he to fight them, but if he doesn't face down one or two in a prize fight, those men will claim a bigger victory over Mayweather's legacy. Defining it, even in their absence.
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by Froifroi on Sep 22, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions
"Williams reach would be a nightmare for Mayweather's usual style." You took the words out of my mouth. I've never been a huge Williams fan, but the Punisher has the tools to give anyone problems, Mayweather included. His punch output alone would beat Floyd. Add that to his freakish length and awkward southpaw stance.
Mosley has always been the fight I've wanted. Mayweather has ducked him for a decade, and I'm sure he'll continue to do so. Shane is more dangerous than Castillo was, even at his advanced age. And he appeared so much bigger than Floyd in the post-fight interview Saturday.
I'm just hoping if I have to watch a guy who runs and pot shots, it will be against someone his own size. Unlikely to happen.
Prediction: Mayweather-Donaire at a catchweight of 142, with Floyd weighing in at 150. As usual with Money, a fair fight.
by JRH on Sep 22, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions
You cant fight everyone...
Eg -----
Why hasnt Cotto faced williams?
Why hasnt Pacquiao faced Mosley, williams, Margarito?
Why do you question only Mayweather's record?
Haters....Get over it !!!
Before saturday, you are the same people saying Floyd feared Marquez..
Now more excuses.....
by Haters on Sep 22, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions
by Anonymous on Sep 22, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions
Floyd beats all the others imo.
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by Anonymous on Sep 22, 2009 6:03 PM EDT reply actions
Since leaving lightweight, who has Floyd fought? Any A-listers? Baldomir??? Judah???? Chop Chop Corley??? Bunch of "name" opponents only. It took Pac less time to dispose of both Oscar & Hatton COMBINED than it took Floyd to finish off Oscar alone. Pac picks on bigger guys, Floyd picks on smaller guys. 'Nuff said.
by Anonymous on Sep 22, 2009 6:06 PM EDT reply actions
by a on Sep 22, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions
Imagine, if ever Mayweather will be fighting pacquiao, who made a lot of improvements after Marquez fight, an Energizer bunny with a lot of power, speed and accuracy, I just don't know how will Mayweather handle Manny - a modern-day-Armstrong - except probably in the canvass. Erniepep
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Nice write up Jeff, enjoyed it.
by Mark Lyons on Sep 22, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions
by Mark Lyons on Sep 22, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions
The only advantage of PBF when he will fight PACMAn is his reach and weight... I think his JAB will be the key on beating PACMAN...
by Anonymous on Sep 22, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions
I personally dont wanna see him fight Margarito because I dont think Margs should be allowed to box again in the US. He is a cheater hands down and he really couldve hurt Cotto for the rest of his career with the glove fiasco he pulled(If you think he was unaware of the wrap situation I understand but I completely disagree).
COtto has no shot. He barely got by Clottey who by a lot of accounts should have taken the decision(Not mine).
Mosely has the best shot. A rejuvinated big welterweight with speed to spare, and he wants to cement his own legacy. That fight would be great.
As I said earlier I dont wanna see him fight Williams. After Williams smashes Pavlik Id like to see him fight one of the guys from the supermiddleweight tourney. Maybe even a fight against Bhop.
by Anonymous on Sep 22, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions
Still the Gayweather nuthugger can't find fault on this. Enough said, your Gayweather stinks!
by Anonymous on Sep 22, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions
Whoever said Floyd was afraid of Marquez? That's why he agreed to fight Marquez in the 1st place, coz he knew Marquez was gonna be too small for him.
by music dude on Sep 22, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions
It's two great fighters and they both have carefully picked fights since they became mega-stars. Pac shouldn't be above criticism either.
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by noBSjack on Sep 22, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions
so what is there to brag? here is mosley, with almost the same size as floyd challenging him and all floyd cn say is, "be respectful!" as if he was a respectful person!
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by Anonymous on Sep 23, 2009 1:27 AM EDT reply actions
The Ring even said that some members of the Board (who decides the ranking) even proposes MW to be #1 but because he fought a lightweight, he just settled for #2. What a crap, in the first place, I think the highest rank that MW should get is 8 :-)
by Anonymous on Sep 23, 2009 1:39 AM EDT reply actions
Also the only other possible name I can think of him going after would be Cory Spinks at 154. Let's say Pwill goes up and is successful against Pavlik. He'll likely stay at 160 and that would leave Spinks and Verno Phillips to head up 154. Either of those two fights would be like stealing another division title for Mayweather.
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Bruce said
If you're really great, you will never cherrypicked your opponent. As Mayweather proclaimed that he is the best.. there is always a question.. Why is that he can't fight boxers who can box him out well? Do you think the money is the answer? If you are great.. money is not the issue in your fights. Right? Also why is that he fights JMM with 2 lbs excess in his 144 lbs agreement? His such a cheater and not deserve to be call the best P4P.
Why Mayweather can't fight guys who can box well? hehe think of it? scared? is that greatness???
Pacquiao will do the beating on him I guess.. because of speed, power and accuracy.. ^_^
Nice article!!
by Anonymous on Sep 23, 2009 4:36 AM EDT reply actions
PACMAN's priority right now is to be the first boxer in the world to win world titles in 7 different division.
Once he accomplish this this coming "FIREPOWER Bout, then other bouts we want will surely follow.
Manny is a fighter not a businessman.
He wants to know his limits as a boxer. He wants the challenges..
Pound for pound means breaking your own limits and not knocking boxers who are obviously below your weight class.
by BiT on Sep 23, 2009 5:24 AM EDT reply actions
I heard that the fight looked like JIMMY OLSEN VERSUS THE INCREDIBLE HULK.
However, Floyd's muscles are so great and fascinating! It reminded me of bodybuilders who use steroids.
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